Thursday, July 9, 2009

GyanYog: The Path of Knowledge

I am summarising my discussion about knowledge with a fellow student/trainee of mine and of course this is with his consent:


Him:

its all bout knowledge

knowledge is the supreme power for evrything

Me:

Not all about it

mostly about it

ok lets say you've got all knowledge

now what?

what will you do with it?

Him:

share it with that lot which is unaware of what knowledge is

it gives immense pleasure

Me

what gives the pleasure, the knowledge, the sharing, or the awe that you get from people?

forgive me if any of my words might hurt you unintentionally

But, do you now think that we are actually satisfying the desire to recognition when we talk about sharing what we know?

Him

its just the satisfaction

Me

when you discuss things in class, or learn about new things, isn't somewhere at the back of the mind there, a desire to be appreciated, and loved for the knowledge?

Him

no awe

have you noted something like this??

Me

No, I haven't

not in your attitude

but what made you ask if I've noted this?

Him

well its just to check dat hw u test ppl

Me

and lets say yes I have

Him

:)

Me

how would that matter, if that's not your tendency?

Tell me something....... when S asked me not to lend you the book the other day, what got yuo irritated? was it the fact that she interfered in your business?

Him

no

well....

Me

see, am not interested in your personal issues, its just that you mentioned it, and am taking it as an example

Him

nothin prsnl

Me

and its gonna disappear from my thought once the discussion is over

so what was the reason of iritation?

Him

its just dat wen m into sumthin i m just doin dat thing

i made my minfd to read dat book

Me

and anyone who stops you from it, you get irritated right?

Him

and dan i was deprived of the wealth in dat book

Me

kool

now, here's what I think about this

You wanted some knowledge

someone interfered

you didn't get it

now ........

you didn't like it right?

Him

its just the thought dat i won't b able to read dat buk

dat irritated me

Me

but does this thought give you the wealth hidden in it?

and the irritation?

Him

i dont think so

:(

Me

and for those few moments when this irritating thought occupied you..... do you call them knowledgeable and knowledgeful moments?

Him

S has made dis happen to many others

Me

so, when this thought was on mind, neither did you get what you wanted, nor did you get something else, all you got was a negativity.

and why should it matter to you?

remember, Knowledge is bliss, when it teaches you to be blissful everytime

The knowledge or the lack of the knowledge which causes any sort of irritation ......... is it bliss really?

Him

dis is wat d dilemma is all about

Me

I know

there was a time, when I read anything and everything

from religion, spirituality, science, to even erotica

why?
because I loved what I learnt

But then.......

I realised....... somewhere deep down

I was losing my humility

losing touch with reality in the sense that I was forgetting that other people were better than me at different tings as well

things*

and then......

I understood with experience that.......... Knowledge is not only what you learn

It is just the first step

More of it is about practice, and most of it is about sharing

However........

The essence is....... to gain, practice, share and yet not be attatched to it

because unless you're detatched from the learnings, you'll not unlearn and make space for new learnings to come

so bliss is only in things that are permanent, and if not permanent, then ever increasing

why is knowledge blissful?

because it is a way to know beyond what we know

Him

nw its getting clear

Me

beyond the material I know, beyond the concepts, and gradually.. beyond this world that I see

and to see beyond this world is the aim of the knowledge.....

This is Gyanyoga

Him

this is what even i thought about

Me

and it is not for everyone

So, if you choose THIS as your path

BE CAREFUL

It will raise the ego

It will make yuo arrogant

and that will bring the weakness of mind, the diversion of energies

and result........ fall down from the gyanyoga

Him

how would the mind beocme weak??

Me

define weakness?

weakness is of two types

1. lack of strength

and 2. wastage of strength

just like there're two kinds of deserts/ the hot and the cold

in the cold desert..there is water but frozen

Him

yup

Him

ok

Me

similarly........ the brain is sharp

but..... polluted

unclear

the understanding becomes foggy

because it becomes conditional

the moment you see people less intellectual......... you start thinking on their level

while you should be thinking on yours

conveing on theirs

and then conveying on yours gradually

whenever you see S........ or anyone else forthat matter.......

you start thinking about things that ideally shouldn't get any attention

and a part of your mind is diverted

Him

ya

dats true

Me

you're hearing, but not fully listening

you're seeing, but not visualising

you're present there, but you aren't living the moment

and that;s when you get only limited knowledge, not full

On this note........... anything you want me to think about?

Him

nothing to think

its all to observe

Me

what do you want me to observe?

Him

its for me to observe now

u r already on a level where i cant reach in a long tym

Me

No dude, am no where

practically no where

compare it with the universe :)

Him

but i m sure 2 reach dere sumday

Me

You'll reach higher

just keep two things in mind

1. keep learning

Him

and

Me

do not resist or control thoughts, feelings emotions, but just introspect

basically.........aptitude and attitude

and you'll reach much higher

Him

i'll abide by dis

Me

again

don't bind yourself

to anything

anyone

any at all

Him

binding in the sense??

Me

keep that for the next session


©anu (Exploring Myself)

Trust and Faith

Over the years, I have realised that we tend to trust people, and we tend to distrust the same people as well. In short, we tend to both trust and distrust the same people for different things at different times in our lives.

This subject makes me ponder a few basic questions:
1. what is trust?
2. Why do we trust?
3. Should we trust?
4. Whom is at all, should we trust?


Here's what I feel about the same:
Trust is....... a feeling of security. A sense of comfort and safety which comes around some people from within. This is one of those 6th senses that we at times talk about. Trust is something, all of us (and yes! I mean all!) have experienced but none can put into words. Fundamentally, I like being with people, because........that makes me happy.... why does it make me happy? because psychologically, am a social animal, physically, I need people for the division of labor, socially I need protection against harms, which a group can provide me better
and....spiritually........ The soul recognizes that the other souls are a part of the same Eternal being that I belong to. so, though I don't understand this, my soul recognizes its kin.

Now, to establish this lost kinship, and due to the establishment of this lost kinship, we tend to trust people.

As to should we, and whom if at all should we trust? I feel, That's a risk, but definitely worth playing. And should we? It comes automatically on people whom it has to. There's not even any sort of active thinking involved.

On this note... I can't think anymore right now. will add later if something's there.

©anu (Exploring Myself)

Reflections - Spiritual Guidance

hmm... this post is being written.......because.... I wanted to write it :) Lol, every post is written for the same reason, because I want to do it, because I feel like doing it, and because its an irresistible urge deep within.


Well......... today, its going to be about a lot of things.Its going to be something about myself, then about some other people, and then a prayer....may be about some ideas as well. Am not sure....here, this goes.............

1. Spiritual Guidance:

This is something I find very ironic. As I was reading J. Krishnamoorthy yesterday, I realized that He said exactly what I've been feeling over the ages. I do not accept any authority on myself in any aspect of my life generally speaking. Neither in the way I eat, dress, sleep, think, read or choose my profession, nor in the way I behave, the choices I make and the kind of life I want to live.

Then, why should I be accepting the authority of someone in my spiritual life?

Just because they say they've experienced, God, The eternal Truth and the ultimate reality?

Is it necessary that I will be having the same experiences if I follow the rituals they prescribe? and if yes, will it be mine? would it not be second hand? He very bluntly says....."We are second hand people"

I have decided, that I will continue to explore the spiritual path in the same manner as I've been......like a free spirit, a wanderer who would rather not stick to anyone, anywhere or anything.

The 'yayavar' in a true sense......the sense of spirit!

Lord,

help me realise the fact that
You love me as an individual,
and that I must find you individually.
Help me understand the difference between,
receiving help and being led,

and ,if You think I am to be led,

lead me Yourself Lord,
for Thine,
am I.
and Thee are mine.

Amen!

©anu (Exploring Myself)

Result Part 2

I got the entrance test result for teachers' training today. Have secured 60 % marks, and a good rank, I know I'll be able to get a proper kind of a seat even in my town. But, I'm not really happy about it. Why I am not sure. Anyhow, I am thankful for the result to everyone who supported me with preparation and exams. Very specially to the almighty :)

©anu (Exploring Myself)